tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-286641763130571769.post4485228605270891431..comments2023-06-09T04:23:23.227-07:00Comments on OutTakes: TRUTH or SMEAR?! The Michael Muhney Y&R Scandal on the InternetLaurie Bakerhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/04863443650222351501noreply@blogger.comBlogger63125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-286641763130571769.post-65042505330744408252014-01-15T03:00:37.230-08:002014-01-15T03:00:37.230-08:00I guess it hasn't occurred to you that there i...I guess it hasn't occurred to you that there is undoubtedly a confidentiality agreement in place, and the actors cannot discuss it.<br /><br />You don't deserve to know the truth. It's none of your business.<br /><br />Watch the show or don't, but you are not entitled to anything from these people.Aquariahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07578444793424041263noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-286641763130571769.post-47547128829661882082014-01-15T02:58:55.424-08:002014-01-15T02:58:55.424-08:00FACT: It's fair and balanced TO YOU. That does...FACT: It's fair and balanced TO YOU. That doesn't mean it actually is.<br /><br />FACT: It doesn't matter if this guy can act. It only matters what he allegedly did.<br /><br />FACT: An actor is only as good as the people he's acting WITH. This is a very old adage in the business.<br /><br />FACT: Fewer people will stop watching than you think. Soap viewers are long accustomed to actors and characters coming and going--it's a feature, not a bug, of the genre. They keep watching even though it's the 2000th rendition of back from the dead, amnesia, evil twin stories, long-lost children and so on, and they have kept watching these things, for 60 years now. This is because FACT: It's the characters and stories they care about, not the actors portraying them. One actor leaving hardly ever affects that; ergo, this, too, shall pass, and their numbers will stay about the same.<br /><br />Really.Aquariahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07578444793424041263noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-286641763130571769.post-62185625157634127892014-01-12T12:57:11.809-08:002014-01-12T12:57:11.809-08:00I think there is a lot going on (probably legal is...I think there is a lot going on (probably legal issues) as to why no one is really saying what happened. We will probably never know the whole truth. However, after all of this, the loss of Michelle and Billy, Y&R will never be the same, so with that I am sticking with Jan 30th, his last day will also be mine and I hope he goes on to better things ahead, hes an awesome actor!<br />Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-286641763130571769.post-32512791512372627242014-01-11T15:37:40.203-08:002014-01-11T15:37:40.203-08:00Very interesting article and for the most part pre...Very interesting article and for the most part pretty fair. I would like to add that if MM did any of the things he's accused of, why the interviews or the tweets? Someone would have to be pretty dumb to flag the world of your firing and know you're a deviant. MM is not dumb! Also if MM was not the most pleasant to everyone on the set, well we're not voting for "employee of the month," we're appreciating a superb actor! I'm behind you all the way Michael and if you are not returning to Y&R after 1/30 than neither am I, a fan since day 1!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-286641763130571769.post-41265606028346534862014-01-11T13:36:31.455-08:002014-01-11T13:36:31.455-08:00Great article. You have expressed everything that ...Great article. You have expressed everything that MM's fans have been trying to convey. Thank you for giving your input. We really appreciate it.Tananoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-286641763130571769.post-36260190264395912012014-01-11T11:03:32.853-08:002014-01-11T11:03:32.853-08:00what really is getting out of hand is the twitter ...what really is getting out of hand is the twitter comments by the other soap stars. they are losing fans because they are insulting them and trying to belittle them, if you don't know all the facts then don't tweet about it. you are ruining your own fan base by acting out like jerks. I'm ready to un-follow some of them just by how they are responding to upset fans. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-286641763130571769.post-61823828094577979142014-01-09T04:27:14.834-08:002014-01-09T04:27:14.834-08:00Great article. MM is a straight forward shoot from...Great article. MM is a straight forward shoot from the hip kind of guy. He says what he thinks and what he feels and screw everyone? Is that arrogance? At least he doesn't give interviews about how "he is the show" blah blah and holds it to ransom during contract negotiations. Facts are IF and I think it's a HUGE IF because HK is one of a million "starlets" out there, CBS/SONY and JFP had a duty of care to fire MM and call in the police, even if HK did not want it, and only if to protect themselves for the future. The fact that it wasn't done and all the loud mouthed actors of the show decided to delete tweets and not stand by opinions tells me more. I hope to GOD MM has decided to sue the asses off all of them. I'm seriously getting dejavu. Does anyone remember how Eileen Davidson was fired many moons ago and the rumors that went around about that? That she was fired because she was a man who had a sex change and a certain someone demanded the role be recast? I think there are several problems in that cast and MM is at least talented as well if he's a problemAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-286641763130571769.post-71769113014595831402014-01-08T19:33:52.010-08:002014-01-08T19:33:52.010-08:00I enjoyed your article. It's better laid out t...I enjoyed your article. It's better laid out than mine is. I will link to it from mine: http://tvmegasite.net/day/yr/articles/01-04-14suzanne.shtml You make some good points that I hadn't thought of.<br /><br />I would not be at all surprised if the network or SONY did what you suggested. Way back when Anna Lee's contract was not renewed with ABC, they treated her terribly, and when fans dared to complain, they sent people all over the net to message boards to suggest that she was too old or ill to continue (which was not true). I ran her website and spoke with her on the phone as well as her son, and she was not too ill or old at that point, and in fact, she needed the health insurance they provided because she was in a wheelchair and had a helper on set. They hadn't even bothered to call her to let her know she was being let go and would not return her calls. They just decided not to use her any more and wouldn't even address it or speak with her. Then they went around and tried to make fans think she was too sick. And her son was pretty convinced that these acts by ABC are what helped cause her death, too. She just gave up, had nothing left to live for. These people at the networks are cold.<br />Suzanne Lanouehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16942981205465546079noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-286641763130571769.post-45627622215405471492014-01-08T14:44:12.299-08:002014-01-08T14:44:12.299-08:00Awesome article! Thank you for pointing out all th...Awesome article! Thank you for pointing out all the flaws in the TMZ story, which did spread like wildfire to every major news network -even though no official sources or proof was included. <br />I also agree with your point that if this was a potential crime, a gag order would've been issued if not officially at least by PR. Although I have noticed lots of Y&R actors doing charity, etc, in social media so perhaps that is another take.<br />I'm withholding judgment myself until someone provides more proof than vicious rumors disguised as a "source" from, let's face it, a gossip rag.Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10597826662350217643noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-286641763130571769.post-69138108034172995872014-01-08T14:08:51.334-08:002014-01-08T14:08:51.334-08:00and ok for a woman vs a man ;)and ok for a woman vs a man ;)Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-286641763130571769.post-11665466883197894682014-01-08T05:34:48.741-08:002014-01-08T05:34:48.741-08:00@Erin: What fair trial by his employer? His ex-emp...@Erin: What fair trial by his employer? His ex-employer is not engaging in a smear campaign in which they have also exposed Hunter's name to the media. Instead of wanting to 'protect an innocent victim of this lothario,' they've put her name out there. What kind of 'employer' does that? If the 'employer' was any sort of descent they'd have kept both names silent out of respect for BOTH and not engaged in this media assassination of Muhney. It just seems to me there's only one ogre here and the press and CBS/SONY are making it Muhney and Muhney alone the scapegoat. There's plenty of blame along the line here. It stems from CBS/SONY hiring Jill Farren Phelps who clearly is trying to make Steve Burton the defacto star of the show by making him the son of a legacy character. Instead of allowing the Dylan character to stand on his won merit, which there are a lot of fans who cannot stand the character and love Adam, JFP is getting rid of a speed bump. Not to forget there was no desire to try to work things out with Billy Miller who wanted out clauses to go do other things. <br />Samskara Impressionshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16717087386962760844noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-286641763130571769.post-70664032426285613622014-01-07T23:16:37.038-08:002014-01-07T23:16:37.038-08:00You hit the nail on the head. JC always grabbed r...You hit the nail on the head. JC always grabbed rear ends of male cast members...there is even video of this...so CBS is definitely at fault for not stepping in sooner to let their employees know that type of behavior should not be tolerated. HR is also at fault for not providing training regarding sexual harassment. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-286641763130571769.post-56162503492156003922014-01-07T21:17:56.241-08:002014-01-07T21:17:56.241-08:00He was already given a fair trial, by his employer...He was already given a fair trial, by his employer Sony. Fans don't put actors on trial. Sony investigated and he was fired. That's all anyone needs to know, if that.Erinnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-286641763130571769.post-46175462248355833162014-01-07T20:02:25.758-08:002014-01-07T20:02:25.758-08:00i'll begin by quoting somebody else: "My ...i'll begin by quoting somebody else: "My gut feeling is this lies somewhere down the middle. Perhaps Muhney and King did engage in some sort of tryst or attempted tryst. Muhney decided for the sake of his marriage and children to draw back. King, however, decided to take it further and either lied or hasn't told the complete truth.". I think that actually that was what was the source of the trouble. Nothing unusual here. Things like this happened very often in theater/film. I also think that after the firing there was a kind of arrangement among all the parts involved in this story, and one of the conditions was that the two persons directly involved in the affair/thrist/improper behavior, etc., would keep silent. Both MM and his accuser did that. I also think that the fan's revolt over the firing triggered the reaction and the hack piece on TMZ. I don't think that CBS and Sony deliberately leaked the story to TMZ. No organization wants to deal with the publicity over alleged sexual behavior. It was strictly the action of Angelica McDonalds for reasons that probably we'll never know exactly. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-286641763130571769.post-35170754430581607322014-01-07T19:14:31.912-08:002014-01-07T19:14:31.912-08:00Thank you for this article. Who are any of us to ...Thank you for this article. Who are any of us to judge without knowing all the facts. I have my own feelings about what I think could have happened but obviously I wasn’t there and they are just feelings. Not facts. I am shocked at some of the comments online in various forums about these actors. The internet is a crazy and scary place sometimes. People don't realize how much their words can affect someone. I hope both MM and HK sue CBS and TMZ. I don't believe it's any coincidence that the head of CBS Daytime is married to a staff member of TMZ. They may not have been the first to report it but why add fuel to the fire. I personally think CBS threw both MM and HK under the bus and what should have been kept private is now public thanks to them. It must be awful to have perfect strangers who know nothing about you say such terrible things. I feel bad for both of them. Over the years I've watched Y&R on and off, but after MM started I haven't missed an episode. It won't be the same without him. I think he is one of the best actors in daytime and anywhere else for that matter. He obviously cares a great deal for his fans, although I've never felt the need to interact. I've seen some of his tweets and his sense of humor is not my cup of tea. But that's ok. I hope both actors can get past this with minimal damage to their personal and professional lives.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-286641763130571769.post-42790845314909645042014-01-07T17:39:26.308-08:002014-01-07T17:39:26.308-08:00The truth is probably everyone is under gag includ...The truth is probably everyone is under gag including the network. It is legally precarious on all sides.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-286641763130571769.post-38488812519585709202014-01-07T13:57:08.350-08:002014-01-07T13:57:08.350-08:00you know if MM had done this,guess what my daughte...you know if MM had done this,guess what my daughter would have taken him down ,right where it gets a man and it would forever be a nono, ! this has all turned into a dirty soap which is getting really crazy,We just want MM back as Adam!!!!!!! get to the truth!<br />Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-286641763130571769.post-1971483043955816252014-01-07T11:16:39.875-08:002014-01-07T11:16:39.875-08:00OK...here's what's REALLY bogus about this...OK...here's what's REALLY bogus about this. Am I the only one who remembers numerous male YR actors speak of several instances of Jeanne Cooper grabbing them in the crotch when they were doing the memorial days to her? Is that not BLATANT sexual harassment? Why is that ok, even humorous? Even if Muhney did what they are alluding to him doing with the young Hunter, any corporate lawyer would tell them all, on both sides to keep a lid on it. Those tapes of the actors describing her doing that and YR doing nothing (not that I am in the least maligning Jeanne, I adored her) will weaken their possible legal action against Muhney and any case Hunter may have to collect from CBS/Sony. It's all very, very strange, other than, clear that there is MUCH infighting on that set and the oldest whiners and biggest ass kissers are getting their way. Here's hoping Muhney lands out WAY on top on a nighttime show on another network or even film where he can show his true gift. He can act the others out of the ballpark.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-286641763130571769.post-53056898950111512512014-01-07T09:30:45.242-08:002014-01-07T09:30:45.242-08:00Oh.....like.....WOWOW!!! An actor is noted for bei...Oh.....like.....WOWOW!!! An actor is noted for being egotistical? Yikes. Never heard that one before. Seriously this has become like a backyard sandbox. "Mommy, Tommy said this about Sally." Just impose a gag order on everyone until it's all sorted out. I can list chapter and verse of a lot of big screen actors who are known for their hubris, yet no one writes about that. Yeah TMZ, shows how mature you are when you pick on the little guy. Does Harvey Levin have any balls? if so then he should put them in a mill and grind.Samskara Impressionshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16717087386962760844noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-286641763130571769.post-21516028584144533802014-01-07T08:25:52.255-08:002014-01-07T08:25:52.255-08:00Um, no. We live in a society where women want to b...Um, no. We live in a society where women want to be thought of as equals to men. If so then they must stand up to as much scrutiny as the man if not they must stop with the whole self-victimization. Too many times it's been said of a man if he does something nasty, cane him, castrate him, tar and feather him. If a woman does something equally as nasty, she didn't mean to do it. I can accept mitigating circumstances in regards to her situation but I cannot give her a walk simply because she's a woman. My version of gender equality goes something like equal pay for equal work. Equal punishment for equal crimes. <br /><br />If as the one article stated that Hunter King made a pass at Muhney and he rebuffed her advances and she decided to make it personal by accusing him of something venal, doesn't that make her something akin to a cad? I think it does. This is the reason in such cases as sexual harassment and rape cases BOTH names should be kept out of the media until facts are proven and the case is fully adjudicated. This way both people are protected and both get the chance to tell their side to a duly charged panel, not fed to the media in hopes they'll gobble it up like pablum. Need I mention the Duke Lacrosse Team? Those three main guys have never gotten their lives back based on the wretched lie of a known habitual liar. And the entire Lacrosse sport was disbanded on the word of a liar. This is worse than Susan Smith. <br /><br />My gut feeling is this lies somewhere down the middle. Perhaps Muhney and King did engage in some sort of tryst or attempted tryst. Muhney decided for the sake of his marriage and children to draw back. King, however, decided to take it further and either lied or hasn't told the complete truth. All I know is only one side is being believed here and it isn't Muhney's. He deserves the right to not be tarred and feathered just on implication alone. ;<br /><br />And shame on the powers that be at CBS/Sony for allowing this to become so viral without attempting to at least get it under control. That McDaniel works for CBS daytime and her husband is a lawyer/reporter on TMZ shows there is connectivity regarding the need to spin, spin, spin. The only one who is getting a drubbing here is Muhney. If it does turn out Muhney did something wrong, then fine. He should take his lumps for his misdeeds. If it turns out he was wrongly dismissed, then by all means Mr. Muhney, take them to task for it. <br /><br /> Samskara Impressionshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16717087386962760844noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-286641763130571769.post-84888182334010555562014-01-07T08:03:04.928-08:002014-01-07T08:03:04.928-08:00Looks like TMZ is at it again. A new story about M...Looks like TMZ is at it again. A new story about Muhney from his Veronica Mars days that has no bearing on anything. The story attacks Muhney for having a big ego as if actors are the most humble people out there and how dare MM think that he’s better looking than Zach Braff. I realize TMZ has never been the pinnacle of journalism and even though none of us like the fact that they reported the groping story, I understand how they might have been compelled to report it since that’s the sort of thing they do, yet reporting about an actor being egotistical in a show that ended 7 years ago and has nothing to do with anything else going on is clearly a sign that TMZ and CBS / SONY are engaged in a smear campaign. The connection between Anjelica McDaniel (Senior Vice President of CBS Daytime programming) and her husband Brian McDaniel (editor and producer for TMZ) should not go ignored by fans. There is clearly a conflict of interest in the way that TMZ is developing these stories on Muhney regardless of whether or not Muhney has done what he’s being accused of. There should be full disclosure on each of these Muhney stories letting readers know about this connection between Mr and Mrs McDaniel. This latest story also takes a blog post and quotes it as a credible news source as if everything in a soap blog should be taken as truth.<br /><br />Like I said, I’m keeping an open mind. I’m not convinced of Muhney’s guilt nor am I convinced of his innocence, but I am starting to see a clear effort to smear him and drag Hunter King’s career along through the mud. Whether Muhney is guilty or innocent, it’s CBS / SONY and TMZ who have revealed themselves as classless.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-286641763130571769.post-34340999131907749132014-01-07T07:57:33.332-08:002014-01-07T07:57:33.332-08:00Just to get you know that I moderate all the comme...Just to get you know that I moderate all the comments on this blog because this is such a controversial topic. If you disagree with my viewpoints, that's cool; and I'll put the comments up. Any posts that are personally insulting to either Michael Muhney or Hunter King will NOT be put up. They've been through enough.Laurie Bakerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04863443650222351501noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-286641763130571769.post-52220700934047942542014-01-07T07:49:19.551-08:002014-01-07T07:49:19.551-08:00Maybe she was intimidated and i see why after seei...Maybe she was intimidated and i see why after seeing how people write her off and believe HIM!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-286641763130571769.post-32591068999710772282014-01-07T06:37:47.251-08:002014-01-07T06:37:47.251-08:00You say where isthe proof! Most of the time there ...You say where isthe proof! Most of the time there can be no proof! So give up women, they won't believe you! We as a society have taken a step backwards! And we have to send our daughters into a world where popularity trumps all!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-286641763130571769.post-44144956298504088702014-01-07T05:48:06.878-08:002014-01-07T05:48:06.878-08:00Great article, enjoyed reading it very much. Someo...Great article, enjoyed reading it very much. Someone needs to own up to this mess and stop the madness. As long as you add the world "allegedly" you are safe from a lawsuit. There seems to be some sort of a gag order at least between MM and HK. I think the rest of cast member should Shut their mouth. We will know the truth at some point, but until then both MM and HK career are damaged, regardless of what happened. Mean while TMZ is not done with MM just yet. They just wrote yet another article about him saying" How he was fired from Veronica and said how he was much better looking than zack braff !!!!! Really TMZ Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com